Lee Elder
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Dissenters in Watchtower History: Differing Departures
by slimboyfat ini'm reading an excellent book about defectors from the mormon church called differing visions: dissenters in mormon history.
through a collection of essays from many academic authors it looks at the life stories of dissenters and reasons for departure, as well as analysing the impact of their dissent on the church itself.
fascinating stuff and makes me wish there was a similar volume looking at the key dissenters from jws/watchtower and the impact they had.
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Lee Elder
Ros or Rosalie passed away a couple of years ago. She was the editor of "In Search of Christian Freedom" and also served as an editor for AJWRB for many years. Though not a Jehovah's Witness, I rather doubt many have had as much influence as Dr. Osamu (Sam) Muramoto, M.D. who was the medical director of AJWRB for many years. His articles in the Journal of Medical Ethics, the Western Journal of Medicine, the British Medical Journal (too mention a few) served to educate the medical community regarding the blood policy and had a very big impact. Marvin Shilmer and Concerned Elder are two others that have made enormous contributions. -
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Watchtower Policy Claims Another Teenager
by Lee Elder ina tragic story of how the watchtower unduly influenced or brain washed a 14 year old jehovah's witness into martyrdom.
the real irony here is the synthetic blood that failed was a hemoglobin solution, and red blood cells are nothing but tiny doughnut shaped bags of hemoglobin.
any thinking person will conclude that if red cells are blood, then so is hemoglobin.
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Lee Elder
We are trying to address the issue of cognitive development in minors to counter the "mature minor" argument the WT has successfully used in these kinds of cases. -
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Watchtower Policy Claims Another Teenager
by Lee Elder ina tragic story of how the watchtower unduly influenced or brain washed a 14 year old jehovah's witness into martyrdom.
the real irony here is the synthetic blood that failed was a hemoglobin solution, and red blood cells are nothing but tiny doughnut shaped bags of hemoglobin.
any thinking person will conclude that if red cells are blood, then so is hemoglobin.
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Lee Elder
We know what needs to be done. It takes time and resources and we have very limited amounts of both. -
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Watchtower Policy Claims Another Teenager
by Lee Elder ina tragic story of how the watchtower unduly influenced or brain washed a 14 year old jehovah's witness into martyrdom.
the real irony here is the synthetic blood that failed was a hemoglobin solution, and red blood cells are nothing but tiny doughnut shaped bags of hemoglobin.
any thinking person will conclude that if red cells are blood, then so is hemoglobin.
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Lee Elder
Hemoglobin is the protein in red cells that carries oxygen and prevents anemia. It is essential to life. -
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Watchtower Policy Claims Another Teenager
by Lee Elder ina tragic story of how the watchtower unduly influenced or brain washed a 14 year old jehovah's witness into martyrdom.
the real irony here is the synthetic blood that failed was a hemoglobin solution, and red blood cells are nothing but tiny doughnut shaped bags of hemoglobin.
any thinking person will conclude that if red cells are blood, then so is hemoglobin.
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Lee Elder
A tragic story of how the Watchtower unduly influenced or brain washed a 14 year old Jehovah's Witness into martyrdom. The real irony here is the synthetic blood that failed was a hemoglobin solution, and red blood cells are nothing but tiny doughnut shaped bags of hemoglobin. Any thinking person will conclude that if red cells are blood, then so is hemoglobin. But because the Watchtower approves the use of hemoglobin solution, but not red cells, this teenager died needlessly. We can also fault both the hospital and a clearly flawed policy on “mature minors” that exists in the state of Washington.
When A 14-Year-Old Chooses To Die Because Of Religion, Can Anyone Stop Him?op-him -
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Honestly, Do You Still Act or Think Like a JW?
by minimus inor do traces or attitudes still rear its ugly head of your past involvement with the witnesses?
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Lee Elder
Of course not everything Jdubs do or think is wrong but I doubt that is what you are asking. As for the things unique to JWs, I doubt that its possible to root it all out. Some of that stuff is happening at a subconscious level and will be with us for the rest of our lives. Probably why we still have JW dreams 10, 20, 30 years after we are out. Its complex PTSD and probably never going away completely. -
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If you are a current active JW, What rules do you deliberately break?
by Truthexplorer indo the lottery.
celebrate my child's birthday.
sign workmates birthday cards.
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Lee Elder
Oh and I started www.ajwrb.org - while I was an elder. Pretty sure they still are pretty upset over that one :-) -
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If you are a current active JW, What rules do you deliberately break?
by Truthexplorer indo the lottery.
celebrate my child's birthday.
sign workmates birthday cards.
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Lee Elder
I was the "liberal elder" after all. I had a band, Pioneered, drank, went to college, made good money, rejected new light on 1914, rejected the blood policy, wrote a number of letters to the WTS, brazenly fought with "conservatives" and generally stood up for the average publisher. They were glad to see me go I'm sure :-) -
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If you are a current active JW, What rules do you deliberately break?
by Truthexplorer indo the lottery.
celebrate my child's birthday.
sign workmates birthday cards.
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Lee Elder
What a bunch of wankers! -
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Great Evening....
by Lee Elder in...with dick and helen kelly.
got to meet joe and barbara anderson and their friend joy on their whirlwind u.s. tour.
wonderful conversation and opportunity to reminisce about our wts experiences and our plans for the future.
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Lee Elder
Barbara is a dynamo and sharp as a tack. Marvin - they talked about you quite a bit. Lots of things in the works in Australia. Got to hear the story behind the story and how Angus came to be so knowledgeable about JWs. What a messed up bunch they are in Australia. Joe was telling us how he essentially was disfellowshipped because he was expected to convince Barbara not to talk with Dateline. Dick is the Treasurer and one of the founding members of AAWA. Helen is just a lot of fun and a great hostess. Lovely evening.